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Wyoming Knott ([personal profile] wyomingnot) wrote in [community profile] knitting2012-10-16 02:11 pm

why didn't anyone tell me?




I can't even remember where I first heard it mentioned... but I tried out Cat Bordhi's Sweet Tomato Heel for the first time the other day. OMG. So much better to work than wrap-and-turn crap.

I hope it fits okay. Because working it was awesome.

Also. Hi!

edit to add... Foolish me. I should have linked to the helpful video.

:)
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[personal profile] laughingrat 2012-10-16 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh, that sounds promising. I loathe wrap-and-turn heels and avoid toe-up socks accordingly.
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[personal profile] wednesday 2012-10-16 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Is there a matching toe? I think I would just about faint were there a matching toe.
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[personal profile] wednesday 2012-10-17 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I like toe-up in theory, and JMCO in practice, but have yet to find an actual toe shape which doesn't either make me tear the toe out again and again because the increases leave gaps, or make me give up in frustration because POINTY. :/ Then again, can't handle short row toes as a whole because gaps.
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[personal profile] tephra 2012-10-17 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
The method I use for my toes yields a rounded toe, it's short though, which (since I have short toes) works great for me, but you might want to knit a bit plain before starting any stitch patterns if you prefer the length of a standard wedge toe.

If you increase one stitch in every time you end up with a visible band on the sides. I don't care for that much so I alternate increasing one stitch in and three stitches in. Sometimes I rotate through 1, 3, and 5 stitches in.

JMCO 1/3 of your eventual sock stitches.

Increase every round until you have 2/3rds of your stitches. I use an M1 increase or yarn over and then twist it closed in the next round. You can use whatever increase you like, but if you are stacking increases you can't use the lifted stitch increases.

Increase every other round until you reach your final stitch count.

For my stubby toes this puts the end of the sock toe about at the base of my big toe. With lace patterns this can mean I flash some toe cleavage in the yarn overs. I don't mind that but if you do, knit some rows before starting any lace patterns.
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[personal profile] wednesday 2012-10-18 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Wherever possible, I inc1 in stitch below because m1 yields an obvious tension difference and yo/twist has a visible twist. (And then there's the bump from kfb. Oh god, the bump from kfb.) This could get interesting. :/

Short rounded toe sounds like the perfect thing; I'll have to see if I can make this one work despite my shortcomings. Thanks!
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[personal profile] tephra 2012-10-19 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
If you stagger your increases you should be able to do the lifted stitch increases, they just don't work if you increase in the same place every row.
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[personal profile] tephra 2012-10-19 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
You're welcome. :)

I'm happy with this toe, but my next pair of socks, whenever I get to them (I have a backup in my gift queue I need to clear) I think I'll try casting on 1/4 of the total and then increase every row to 1/2, every other row to 3/4, and then every third row to the total. It should make for a longer but still rounded toe, sort of almond shaped.
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[personal profile] aderam 2012-10-16 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you have a link to it? Where can I find this Tomato Heel? I R intrigued.
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[personal profile] ariandar 2012-10-16 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Cat Bordhi's YouTube channel has saved my butt many times. Here's a link to the video tutorial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRc3309JUyc
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[personal profile] aderam 2012-10-17 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks! I will definitely check this out. :)
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[personal profile] aderam 2012-10-17 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
More than okay. I probably should have just googled it. :)

Bones has very understanding eyebrows...
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[personal profile] pensnest 2012-10-16 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
That looks *great*. I'm half-way up the foot of a sock, I should give this a go. No more gaps!
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[personal profile] aunty_marion 2012-10-17 11:53 am (UTC)(link)
Cool! I've seen it mentioned, but not seen the actual method till now. I think I may have to give this a try on the next pair of socks I make for myself. I usually work toe-up, and it's good to know that this heel will work for both that and top-down.

Another fan of Judy's Magic Cast-on here; I usually do the heel from the Express Lane socks, as it has no wrap-and-turns, which I've found a bloody nuisance. The Express Lane heel turn has yarn-overs instead, and produces a very nice heel with no holes at the corners, as a rule (some small amount of tightening might need to happen).
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[personal profile] evilawyer 2012-10-18 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
I can't follow videos to save my life. It's why my sainted mother had not enough patience to teach me to knit person. Do you perchance know of a transcript of the directions? I know, it's me that's the strange one, but if I can read the instructions instead of only watching someone do it, I have a decent chance of actually doing a half way decent job. And I'd love no gaps in my heels!
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[personal profile] wednesday 2012-10-18 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooo, thank you! I don't have a problem with videos per se, but the mother/daughter metaphor was really driving me bat. (Not that it's not in the written version, but it's easier to drop from active processing, as it were. ^^ )
Edited 2012-10-18 18:14 (UTC)
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[personal profile] evilawyer 2012-10-19 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks! :)