Queston Re: Number 2's Scarf

[evilawyer]

Hello. I quite like the 1960's TV show "The Prisoner", and wanted to make a knitted scarf based on the scarf worn by Leo McKern's Number 2 for my partner. I wasn't able to find any actual patterns for the scarf on line (apparently it's a school scarf), but I did look at stills from the show that featured various Number 2s and their scarves. Everybody's but McKern's seems easy enough to recreate in some fashion, but the striping on McKern's looks different than rest, and I can't quite figure out why from the pictures. Does anyone out there possible have/know where I can find a pattern or a diagram of McKerns' scarf? Thanks.

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[dhae_knight_1]

I have no patterns, but I'd love a picture or a link to a picture? :-)

[evilawyer]

I have some links to McKern screencaps in my notes on my desktop at my office, but I do have this one that does a pretty good job showing Peter Wyngarde's version. His seems the standard; McKern's looks wider or seems to have more white stripes, but not all the time.

I'll update this reply with the McKern links tomorrow. (If I can figure hiw to do a screencap from a DVD, I'll include that, too, but I'm dreadful at that sort of tech thing.

ETA:

Whoops! That link to the blog with the Wyngarde scarf screencap is http://permissiontokill-filmreviews.blogspot.com/2009/04/prisoner-checkmate-1967.html.

[dhae_knight_1]

Maybe it's just that he isn't actually wearing the same scarf?

I want to knit the scarf that Dominic Deegan wears, but I keep running into the problem (if you can call it that), that the artist draws him in black and white. And doesn't, y'know, necessarily always put the dark and light stripes in the same order at the ends... :-D

[evilawyer]

Darn that artistic license! It gets in the way of good knitting!

[seryn]

Stripes are vertical. Either knit scarf long-ways or use intarsia method. I wasn't able to find a really clear image to link, but that is clearly the difference.

[evilawyer]

I was going to do it lengthwise because it will be quicker with less chance of snags in wearing it, but what I can't quite tell is how many colored stripes there actually are in McKern's scarf. Everybody else's has one yellow and one white stripe separated by a black stripe and two black border stripes. McKern's looks like that in some screencaps, but in others it looks like there are more white stripes and I can't tell how many.

[havocthecat]

Yeah, I would imagine you're going to have to hunt through some episodes for that information. On the plus side, watching a well-loved show for costuming info? Terrible, you know. No one loves doing that. ;)

[evilawyer]

I'll just have to subject myself to another marathon. Oh, will the marathons never end! ;-)

[copracat]

If it helps, here are British university scarf colours: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxbridge_scarf_colours

The traditional Uni scarf isn't knitted but made of wool fabric.it

Edit: Not that you can't knit one, of course, but it would explain why it might not be easy to locate a pattern.

[evilawyer]

I'd be happy to just have a clear picture that shows the number of stripes on 2's scarf. And now I have a template! Thank you so much.

And yes, it does look like the scarves are woven. I suppose I could felt it, but I think a kniited version would suffice.

Thanks again.

[astro_noms]

I made something similar for a fictional university scarf, if you want to see what I did - St. Simon's Pride. It looks to me like Wyngarde's is one white & one yellow stripe and black stripes in between, and where it looks like there might be more than one white/yellow stripe is either the scarf wrapped around twice, or the shirt peeking through (see this picture for example, the part that's on his should lies too flat to be more than one layer.

[dhae_knight_1]

Wow - that's gorgeous! <3

Now I feel bummed we don't have scarves like that for the universities in Denmark... :-(

[astro_noms]

You could start a trend! Take the school colors and make some scarves/hats/whatever! :D

[dhae_knight_1]

Don't have school colors, either. :-( We're so boring! :-D

[astro_noms]

LOL. Take them from you university website? Or a sports team if you have one? The colors from graduation robes? Banners? Or just make them up! You could have some fun with it. :)

[evilawyer]

The more I look at different pics, the more I'm thinking that McKern and Wygarde are wearing the wearing the same scarf, but McKern is wearing two that have been overlapped at the ends to make for a longer scarf. That's why his scarf, in some photos anyway, looks like Wyngarde's on the end you can see on his chest and like something with more white stripes than one up around his neck.

Thanks for that big Wyngarde pic --- much easier to see (I agree; it's one layer. I don't want to do a knit version of it in the round to achieve the vertical stripes; lengthwise is the way I'm going to do it).